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Bob G
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NEED SOME HELP FINDING THE FEDERAL TAXPAYER I.D. #s FOR THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES. WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY ASSISTANCE.  THANX.

 

Chase Manhattan Mortgage Corporation

GMAC Commercial Mortgage Corporation

Opteum Financial Services, LLC

Countrywide Home Loan Servicing, LP

Union Planters Mortgage, Inc.

Credit Suisse First Boston Securities Corp.

Select Portfolio Servicing, Inc.

Ocwen Federal Bank, FSB

J.P. Morgan Acquisition Corp.

Ocwen Loan Servicing, LLC

Barclays Capital Real Estate, Inc.

Homeq Servicing Corp.

Midland Loan Services, Inc.

Morgan Stanley Capital I Inc.

Morgan Stanley Mortgage Capital, Inc.

NCB, FSB

Wilshire Credit Corporation

Central Mortgage Co.

Cendant Mortgage Corp.

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Moose
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob G

NEED SOME HELP FINDING THE FEDERAL TAXPAYER I.D. #s FOR THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES. WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY ASSISTANCE.  THANX.

 ...


Bob - some of those have been acquired by other entities (Countrywide is now part of BofA, Select Portfolio Services is part of Credit Suisse, etc.).

For privacy and data security reasons, most companies will be diligent in not providing their EIN/TIN on anything but government-required forms - the IRS worries about such things:

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ii) Commercial datasets based on tax identifiers
The private sector creates data systems for commercial purposes (Dunn &
Bradstreet, Compustat, and others). These datasets are publicly available at the micro record level and include such items as name, address, EIN, number of employees, and a plethora of financial information at the company level. In addition, there is substantial information about the sampling frame used for statistical data collection and about statistical disclosure limitation (SDL) techniques. The potential for individuals to use these data and their knowledge of SDL techniques in conjunction with datasets produced from FTI, threatens the absolute protection requirement of sections 6103(j)(4) and 6108(c), especially when softened by the corollary of reasonable means.

IRS Statistics of Income Division
July 8, 2002

In other words, someone with the right knowledge and access could use an EIN/TIN to perhaps obtain a list of employees.

Those databases that will have that information aren't cheap, but the ultimate question is, what would you do with it?

Moose


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Bill
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The information you are looking for is very easily found on the Internet.  It took me about 5 mins to find most of the EINs for the entities on your list.  The fact that you are unable to find this information and posted this same request on multiple foreclosure websites makes me also wonder why you need it and what it will be used for.  Most people that are familiar with researching companies will know where to look to easily find these numbers, but I cannot think of any way an EIN could be of any use in a foreclosure and I'm not really sure I'd post these numbers in a public forum even if they are readily available.   Maybe if you post some more information you will get some help. 

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BOb G
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Bill

I'd be very surprised if you found the EIN's for the exact firms that I listed. I'm not talking about the parent organizations here. I've been looking for 3 days and I can't find them.


Where did you find them?

Thanx.

Bob
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Robert P.
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Use EDGAR SEC search engine. Search by company you will find documents with their EINs.

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George Burns
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There are a few paid services that allow you to look them up. I suspect that there must be a free service somewhere. The problem is that the name you have might:
1. Be no longer in business e.g Countrywide and HomeEq.
2. Be a dba.
3. Be address dependent. Ocwen might have a different number for each major location.
4. Not have a number because they are located outside the USA, maybe in Mumbai, Indonesia or Jamaica. 

There are a number of reasons not to have an EIN.

But, in any case, as previously posted by others, we are wondering what the relevance or benefit is, of having the EIN.
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Moose
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Originally Posted by BOb G
Bill

I'd be very surprised if you found the EIN's for the exact firms that I listed. I'm not talking about the parent organizations here. I've been looking for 3 days and I can't find them.


Where did you find them?

Thanx.

Bob


They're usually on the SEC 8K (Quarterly filing for publicly-traded companies) but that assumes you have the right entity over the spectrum of time, i.e., Ocwen Financial Corporation's most recent 8K shows it as 65-0039856

Countrywide Financial Corporation's was 26-2209742  and the servicing arm was under that umbrella.

Keep in mind, subsidiaries almost always use the same EIN/TIN as the parent.

Again, what use is there for the EIN/TIN?

Moose






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Texas
Reply with quote  #8 
Again, what use is there for the EIN/TIN?

Moose

Could it be that interest payments where made to name of that EIN/TIN and is not the same party trying to foreclose?
Would that possibly show the real party in interest?
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BOb G
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Burned through the Edgar database and FEIN and EIN services. Working on a special project. Might benefit folks here. That's all I can say for now. Will keep the board posted if I have any success.
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Bill
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Originally Posted by BOb G
Bill

I'd be very surprised if you found the EIN's for the exact firms that I listed. I'm not talking about the parent organizations here. I've been looking for 3 days and I can't find them.


Where did you find them?

Thanx.

Bob


I did find the EINs for what you had listed.  I do not trust the SEC's website and the 8K.  For example, Moose posted the correct EIN for Ocwen but did not post the correct EIN for Countrywide.  We are not 411.  Here we share information for the good and benefit of everyone.  You want to know HOW to find a CORRECT EIN (in less that 3 days or even 30 seconds) and I want to know WHAT USE IS AN EIN in foreclosure.  Seems pretty easy.  But I see no point in sharing my knowledge with someone playing "I have a secret" and not sharing any potential use with everyone or who has never contributed to the forum in any way.  Good luck using your INCORRECT EIN numbers.

Regards 




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William A. Roper, Jr.
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Quote:
Bob. G. said:

Burned through the Edgar database and FEIN and EIN services.  Working on a special project.  Might benefit folks here.  That's all I can say for now.  Will keep the board posted if I have any success. 


Bill:

It is a double-secret project.  This project can only be discussed using the Control "Cone of Silence".

Even so, if Bob told you the secret, he would also probably have to kill you, to better assure that it is never actually revealed!  In fact, upon completion of the project, Bob G. may have to kill himself to assure that the project is never actually discovered and compromised!

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BOb G
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Gentlemen,

Sorry to have troubled any of you. Forget the request.
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William A. Roper, Jr.
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Bob G. said:
Gentlemen,
 
Sorry to have troubled any of you.  Forget the request.
 
Bob G.:
 
I hope you know I am just playing with you!  What request?
 
Best of luck and success in your project!!
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William A. Roper, Jr.
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P.S. - I posted the MERSCorp Taxpayer ID Number in the thread "Facts About MERS / MERS Unmasked" in August of 2007:

http://ssgoldstar.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=2063120 

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Bill
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For the regular forum participants.  If for some reason you do feel it is important to find an EIN and do not have a SECRET PROJECT sponsored by any black-ops wing of the U.S. Government, send me an email and I'll send you a link to an easy way to find the numbers without EDGAR and all the work.


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Bill
Reply with quote  #16 

Of course, it's free and there is not a cost to look the info up.

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Carl
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Did you find EIN for Select Portfolio Servicing?pls share.
305-235-5633
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